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		<title>By: Handel</title>
		<link>http://mytakeradio.com/2010/01/20/the-act-of-simplifying-comic-book-movies-and-why-i-agree-with-it-from-a-comic-book-lover/comment-page-1/#comment-261</link>
		<dc:creator>Handel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 17:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>we should eat grandma pizza and hug about it.</description>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 18:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we just have two stubborn jackasses who won&#039;t give in here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we just have two stubborn jackasses who won’t give in here.</p>
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		<title>By: Handel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Handel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 17:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My formula is not what Bay did. You don&#039;t even read what I said. You&#039;re just getting shits and giggles because your thread is popular.</description>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
		<link>http://mytakeradio.com/2010/01/20/the-act-of-simplifying-comic-book-movies-and-why-i-agree-with-it-from-a-comic-book-lover/comment-page-1/#comment-249</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 17:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I facepalmed so hard I broke a hole through the wall behind my desk.

Peter Cullen doing the voice of a character he&#039;s always done does not mean that Michael Bay chose to use the same materials of the cartoon, it just proves that Peter Cullen was in need of a check.
Nothing more.
Now I&#039;m not saying bay did or didn&#039;t base it on that, It&#039;s just based on what you&#039;re saying.


And as for your formula, according to your logic,  that&#039;s what Bay did, and you still hated the movie.
He took familiar chartacters such as Megatron, bumble bee, jazz, etc , he took familiar voices, cullen, Welker, etc , he updated and upgraded the old story (with controversial results, but still), and you hated the shit out of it.
Same goes for Spider man, iron man, etc, you hated or disliked, all of them, no?

So based on your own logic, you don&#039;t even agree with yourself, but please,  correct me if I&#039;m wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I facepalmed so hard I broke a hole through the wall behind my desk.</p>
<p>Peter Cullen doing the voice of a character he’s always done does not mean that Michael Bay chose to use the same materials of the cartoon, it just proves that Peter Cullen was in need of a check.<br />
Nothing more.<br />
Now I’m not saying bay did or didn’t base it on that, It’s just based on what you’re saying.</p>
<p>And as for your formula, according to your logic,  that’s what Bay did, and you still hated the movie.<br />
He took familiar chartacters such as Megatron, bumble bee, jazz, etc , he took familiar voices, cullen, Welker, etc , he updated and upgraded the old story (with controversial results, but still), and you hated the shit out of it.<br />
Same goes for Spider man, iron man, etc, you hated or disliked, all of them, no?</p>
<p>So based on your own logic, you don’t even agree with yourself, but please,  correct me if I’m wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Handel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Handel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 04:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;And the fact that some­one uses the car­toon voice actors, doesn’t mean they’re bas­ing it on the same source mate­r­ial&quot;

Most retarded thing you have ever said. There was no other reason to make the announcement at COMIC-CON, a room full o&#039; nerds that Peter Cullen would reprise his role as Optimus Prime.

And I am not even going to argue any of that crap with you because you still cannot admit that I presented a simple formula to make a hit movie that satisfies old fans and draw in new ones. Watch those first three episodes of the series. Not counting Devastator, they had more action, more robots and more TRANSFORMING than both movies put together. Only part that stands up is the Devastator fight and that was a pile of shit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“And the fact that some­one uses the car­toon voice actors, doesn’t mean they’re bas­ing it on the same source mate­r­ial”</p>
<p>Most retarded thing you have ever said. There was no other reason to make the announcement at COMIC-CON, a room full o’ nerds that Peter Cullen would reprise his role as Optimus Prime.</p>
<p>And I am not even going to argue any of that crap with you because you still cannot admit that I presented a simple formula to make a hit movie that satisfies old fans and draw in new ones. Watch those first three episodes of the series. Not counting Devastator, they had more action, more robots and more TRANSFORMING than both movies put together. Only part that stands up is the Devastator fight and that was a pile of shit.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 21:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry mr handel, I wasn&#039;t listening, I was too busy looking at this:

&quot;The Transformers (retroactively called Generation One or G1) started as a joint venture between two companies: Hasbro of America and Takara of Japan. After an idea to rebrand and sell Takara&#039;s Diaclone and Microchange robot toys as a whole new line with a new concept behind it, Hasbro unknowingly would wind up creating what would be one of its longest-running franchises. &quot;

Oh snap, did I just pull that FAIL outta my ass?
Oh wait, there&#039;s more:

http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Transformers_timeline

If you look at this timeline, you can see that the origination of the transformers began approximately 2 years before it debuted in the USA.
Not only that, but the actual toys came out several months before the toon launched:

February - Hasbro Bradley unveils their new Transformers toyline at Toy Fair. 
March - Marvel Age #17 announces the April debut of the Transformers comic book. 
Spring - The first animated commercial advertising the Marvel comics airs on US TV. 

So technically, the comic is based on the toys, the movie, and the toon are based on the toys as well, all of them are based on the toys.

And the fact that someone uses the cartoon voice actors, doesn&#039;t mean they&#039;re basing it on the same source material where the actors are from, as we&#039;ve seen in Batman Arkham Asylum.
So my friend, our battle was fierce, but ultimately, you FAIL. 

And you should know better….transformers aren&#039;t even my thing……

I still love you though, you big bald bastard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m sorry mr handel, I wasn’t listening, I was too busy looking at this:</p>
<p>“The Transformers (retroactively called Generation One or G1) started as a joint venture between two companies: Hasbro of America and Takara of Japan. After an idea to rebrand and sell Takara’s Diaclone and Microchange robot toys as a whole new line with a new concept behind it, Hasbro unknowingly would wind up creating what would be one of its longest-running franchises. ”</p>
<p>Oh snap, did I just pull that FAIL outta my ass?<br />
Oh wait, there’s more:</p>
<p><a href="http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Transformers_timeline" rel="nofollow">http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Transformers_timeline</a></p>
<p>If you look at this timeline, you can see that the origination of the transformers began approximately 2 years before it debuted in the USA.<br />
Not only that, but the actual toys came out several months before the toon launched:</p>
<p>February — Hasbro Bradley unveils their new Transformers toyline at Toy Fair.<br />
March — Marvel Age #17 announces the April debut of the Transformers comic book.<br />
Spring — The first animated commercial advertising the Marvel comics airs on US TV. </p>
<p>So technically, the comic is based on the toys, the movie, and the toon are based on the toys as well, all of them are based on the toys.</p>
<p>And the fact that someone uses the cartoon voice actors, doesn’t mean they’re basing it on the same source material where the actors are from, as we’ve seen in Batman Arkham Asylum.<br />
So my friend, our battle was fierce, but ultimately, you FAIL. </p>
<p>And you should know better….transformers aren’t even my thing……</p>
<p>I still love you though, you big bald bastard.</p>
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		<title>By: Handel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Handel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 13:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Continued fail.
You wrote a whole diatribe and did not even touch on what I said which makes me think you did not read past the first two lines. The cartoon came out before the toy, albeit only slightly and I showed you a simple formula to make a movie that satisfys both those kids you mentioned and hardcore purists and it can be applied to any such comic or cartoon-based movie: Use the basics of a single story arc and add a little to make it modern - done. 

FYI, Michael Bay&#039;s bullshit WAS based off of the cartoon; the simple fact that Peter Cullen was Optimus Prime and Frank Welker was Soundwave proves that he WAS looking to draw that purist audience along with new fans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Continued fail.<br />
You wrote a whole diatribe and did not even touch on what I said which makes me think you did not read past the first two lines. The cartoon came out before the toy, albeit only slightly and I showed you a simple formula to make a movie that satisfys both those kids you mentioned and hardcore purists and it can be applied to any such comic or cartoon-based movie: Use the basics of a single story arc and add a little to make it modern — done. </p>
<p>FYI, Michael Bay’s bullshit WAS based off of the cartoon; the simple fact that Peter Cullen was Optimus Prime and Frank Welker was Soundwave proves that he WAS looking to draw that purist audience along with new fans.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 14:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Insults?
20 hour movie + Super Bladder guy?
Have we gone a wee bit sensitive?
Dude, anyone can tell you, Insults,  that&#039;s all you baby.
All I do is laugh at it when you do.
But whatever sweet cheeks.


My theory is solid, plus transformers is based on a line of toys, so with that in mind, it can go anyway it wants, just like when kids play with such toys.
This fact pretty much allows me to point and laugh at you already, but, I&#039;m not done my friend.

Let&#039;s take another road.
Safely assuming that over 70 percent of the people who saw the films were CHILDREN (most of them born after the year 2000) actually even saw the TV show or even give a crap about the show or it&#039;s subject matter, or even read the comics, or even know who Starscream is,  does it really matter?
How many of the moviegoers were &#039;hardcore&quot; transformers fans?
I&#039;m willing to bet a somewhere among that 20-30 percent leftover after the kiddies.
The film isn&#039;t trying to be the cartoon, it&#039;s trying to be the movie which is trying to be it&#039;s own thing.

And another thing, I&#039;ve been reading comics forever, and I couldn&#039;t tell you more than 1 person that I know(I&#039;m assuming you) who even reads transformers comics.
And this is going back to the 80&#039;s.
Even my older brother didn&#039;t read the books, and he had a raging hard on for anything with a spark, so if we were basing this off of comic books (which is what this entire post is about by the way, not toys, nice try though) then even that wouldn&#039;t matter, because no one knows what most of those are about anyway.


In any case, assuming people were plowing through stacks of trasnformers comic books, You go stand out in front of Marvel or DC, or any other publication, and stand there with your pitchfork and torch in hand telling them you want your movies to be exactly translated from the comics, so everyone who&#039;s ever read them can know exactly what will happen, so every movie can be ridiculously long, and so every movie writer in the industry can be fired since screenplays will be useless, all we&#039;d need to do is pick up a comic book, a camera and direct a film.
It&#039;s that simple.

Have fun with that, I&#039;ll be at the theater watching Iron Man 2 and not complainging about anything.

For the record, I enjoyed the transformers movies, They were terribly cheesy and goofy, but fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Insults?<br />
20 hour movie + Super Bladder guy?<br />
Have we gone a wee bit sensitive?<br />
Dude, anyone can tell you, Insults,  that’s all you baby.<br />
All I do is laugh at it when you do.<br />
But whatever sweet cheeks.</p>
<p>My theory is solid, plus transformers is based on a line of toys, so with that in mind, it can go anyway it wants, just like when kids play with such toys.<br />
This fact pretty much allows me to point and laugh at you already, but, I’m not done my friend.</p>
<p>Let’s take another road.<br />
Safely assuming that over 70 percent of the people who saw the films were CHILDREN (most of them born after the year 2000) actually even saw the TV show or even give a crap about the show or it’s subject matter, or even read the comics, or even know who Starscream is,  does it really matter?<br />
How many of the moviegoers were ‘hardcore” transformers fans?<br />
I’m willing to bet a somewhere among that 20–30 percent leftover after the kiddies.<br />
The film isn’t trying to be the cartoon, it’s trying to be the movie which is trying to be it’s own thing.</p>
<p>And another thing, I’ve been reading comics forever, and I couldn’t tell you more than 1 person that I know(I’m assuming you) who even reads transformers comics.<br />
And this is going back to the 80’s.<br />
Even my older brother didn’t read the books, and he had a raging hard on for anything with a spark, so if we were basing this off of comic books (which is what this entire post is about by the way, not toys, nice try though) then even that wouldn’t matter, because no one knows what most of those are about anyway.</p>
<p>In any case, assuming people were plowing through stacks of trasnformers comic books, You go stand out in front of Marvel or DC, or any other publication, and stand there with your pitchfork and torch in hand telling them you want your movies to be exactly translated from the comics, so everyone who’s ever read them can know exactly what will happen, so every movie can be ridiculously long, and so every movie writer in the industry can be fired since screenplays will be useless, all we’d need to do is pick up a comic book, a camera and direct a film.<br />
It’s that simple.</p>
<p>Have fun with that, I’ll be at the theater watching Iron Man 2 and not complainging about anything.</p>
<p>For the record, I enjoyed the transformers movies, They were terribly cheesy and goofy, but fun.</p>
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		<title>By: Handel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Handel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 15:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love how Bronx has to resort to insults when his theory is shot down.

So let me gun it down some more.

Transformers started with a three part miniseries titled &quot;More Than Meets The Eye!&quot; By TV standards, that meas it was roughly 66 minutes long. If you count that there were opening and closing credits on each ep, you can say it was maybe 62 minutes long. Other than giving their names, there was no human story element. Flesh that out and there are your other 30 minutes for a 90 minute movie that satisfies true fans of the franchise AND the people that give a crap about Shia LeBouf and Megan Fox.

Gee, seems like I just pitched something way shorter than 12 hours. You have failed, kind sir. Good day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love how Bronx has to resort to insults when his theory is shot down.</p>
<p>So let me gun it down some more.</p>
<p>Transformers started with a three part miniseries titled “More Than Meets The Eye!” By TV standards, that meas it was roughly 66 minutes long. If you count that there were opening and closing credits on each ep, you can say it was maybe 62 minutes long. Other than giving their names, there was no human story element. Flesh that out and there are your other 30 minutes for a 90 minute movie that satisfies true fans of the franchise AND the people that give a crap about Shia LeBouf and Megan Fox.</p>
<p>Gee, seems like I just pitched something way shorter than 12 hours. You have failed, kind sir. Good day.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 18:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So you want companies to make a movie that is at least 12 hours long?
Get outta here super bladder guy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you want companies to make a movie that is at least 12 hours long?<br />
Get outta here super bladder guy.</p>
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